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Respawn LAN v17 Powered by Tt eSports
July 3-4th 2010, La Trobe University, Bundoora


Melbourne's most successful BYO PC LAN gaming event is BACK FOR MORE and what better way to spend Melbourne's coldest winter nights than inside a hall immersing in the glow of 400 PCs?

Continuing on our tradition of delivering the best LAN experience, our 17th event announces the biggest swag we've seen in recent times! Thanks to our wonderful sponsors, Tt eSports by Thermaltake, Fractal Designs and Wild Wire for their amazing support! Check these prizes out:

Counter-Strike Source 5v5 (total prize pool over $2000!)
1st place: 5x ThermalTake eSports Challenger PRO gaming keyboard + 5x Fractal Design Define R2 PC gaming case
2nd place: 5x ThermalTake eSports Black Gaming Mice

Call Of Duty 4 (total prize pool RRP $720)
1st place: 5x ThermalTake eSports Challenger PRO gaming keyboard
2nd place: 5x ThermalTake eSports Black Gaming Mice

They'll also be kicking in an additional set of the keyboard, mouse and a Shock Gaming Headset which we will be giving away.

We'll be annoucing prizes soon for the following:
Flatout 2
Team Fortress 2
Armagetron
HAWX
Starcraft
GRID
Half-Life 2 Deatmatch
Counter-Strike: Source GunGame

We are also introducing a PRE-PAY system (via PayPal) which will not only guarantee you a spot (auto-confirm) but entitle you to have guaranteed seats, faster check-in and personalised player tags with your nick printed waiting for collection when you arrive.

Registrations open Thursday 9PM. Stay tuned for more exciting things that we'll be announcing shortly...
_Andrew_
Sweet As Respawn V17 smile.gif cant wait
*666*
yeah cant fuck'en wait
priorax
Looking forward to it.

Question about the "guaranteed seats". Is it like other LANs where you can reserve certian seats, or will it just like you are paid reservation at the moment?
Also, can you reserve for more then one player?
And do you have to be in the top 400 in order to pre-pay?
dead_man
RE: Pre-Pays

We're capping the amount of pre-payees to 200 at this stage.

Prepays will auto-confirm. if you prepay, your seat is guaranteed for the entire event.

We're in the process of drawing up our floorplan - we'll be letting everyone know when we're ready to accept bookings.

We're still ironing out some parts of the procedure but rest assured, we'll be letting everyone know as soon we we're good. This is a radical change for us which we hope to benefit all.

-Dead_Man

[updated by squid]

[severely updated by zardoz]
Shub0xx
I like the idea of actual prizes over cash prizes. Should make the competition even more intense.

The pre-pay option is an awesome idea. A long time coming, and will definitely speed up check in times.

I do have a question about pre-pay though. I'll use myself as an example. Say I pre-pay for a seat, but then something unforeseen comes up and I need to cancel. Is there a refund option available, and if there is, what is the absolute last date that someone can cancel without losing their money.

I ask cos it would b unfair to management if 50 cancel out the night b4, or don't rock up at all. That would b 50 empty seats. Sure they're paid for, but it's a wasted space.

I'm gathering that Zardoz and his awesome management team have thought of this, and will let us know as soon as it is convienent for them.

Zardoz
Hi,

One of the core motivating points to introduce a pre-paid system is to ensure that we don't get hit with the financial burden of no-shows. We have seen a disturbing trend in recent events where many players would register, then confirm, then not show. This is grossly unfair to the 300 people plus who are on the waiting list and aren't sure whether they can attend, so they simply turn away, leaving empty seats that we paid for.

The problem here is this: if you cancel two days before the event (and this is the timeframe when you are likely to know that you can't attend, i.e. illness, family emergency and so on), we would have already catered for you in our planning and thusly would not only need to refund you but would lose money on the seat we have provided for you. At short notice, it's hard to reallocate this seat to another person as by then, the majority of people on the waiting list would have assumed they cannot attend and may have made other plans.

Most ticketing agencies (Ticketek, Ticketmaster) will only refund if an event is cancelled and this is our stance on the issue as well. If there are extreme circumstances, then we'll lend an ear however at this stage, I think it's safer for everyone to say that we won't be handing out refunds. The solution to this would be to make these bookings transferrable, so that you could log in and assign your pre-paid location to someone else who has not registered. We haven't implemented this as yet.

Remember that nobody makes a profit out of Respawn LAN events (except for our sponsors, of course!) so the money we lose directly affects the community 1:1.

I hope this clears a few things up.

-z.
Shub0xx
I understand if I pay and then tell u I'm not coming that the seat gets given to someone else, so that's fair enough, but if I pay but don't show, does the seat stay empty, or does it get given to someone else?

Obviously it wouldn't effect me either way, since theoretically I'm not there so I wouldn't know, but just curious.

Makes life easier for the management team too. Well, a little bit easier anyway.
fletchdawg
i think most teams just prefer cash over prizes they wont actually use.... for a locacl lan $100 for 1st place is a nice little prize a mouse and keyboard is pointless. Please change it back because i can tell you know you just lost the CoD competition and most of CSS
priorax
I think what it comes down to more then anything. Thermaltake are trying to get their new keyboards/mice known to the public, this is an easy way for them to advertise their products.
R4N
QUOTE (fletchdawg @ May 25 2010, 04:29 PM) *
i think most teams just prefer cash over prizes they wont actually use.... for a locacl lan $100 for 1st place is a nice little prize a mouse and keyboard is pointless. Please change it back because i can tell you know you just lost the CoD competition and most of CSS


Not all Lans will offer cash as a prize, you will notice most BYOPC lans in Australia offer prizes that are donated from sponsors.

We also get quite a bit of feedback about our prize offerings and most responses i have received prefer physical prizes to cash.

This is not to say we will stop offering cash prizes for the future. This event Respawn has received quite a bit of sponsor attention and as such we are offering some quite high value prizes.
Zardoz
QUOTE (Shub0xx @ May 25 2010, 04:05 PM) *
I understand if I pay and then tell u I'm not coming that the seat gets given to someone else, so that's fair enough, but if I pay but don't show, does the seat stay empty, or does it get given to someone else?

Obviously it wouldn't effect me either way, since theoretically I'm not there so I wouldn't know, but just curious.

Makes life easier for the management team too. Well, a little bit easier anyway.



If you pay and don't show, then the seat will still be set aside for you and will be left empty as we will need to ensure that the seat is available for you should you turn up!

Even if you told us on the day that you weren't able to make it, we don't have an easy method of finding someone else who previously missed out on the event to fill that seat.
Redact
QUOTE (R4N @ May 25 2010, 05:40 PM) *
QUOTE (fletchdawg @ May 25 2010, 04:29 PM) *
i think most teams just prefer cash over prizes they wont actually use.... for a locacl lan $100 for 1st place is a nice little prize a mouse and keyboard is pointless. Please change it back because i can tell you know you just lost the CoD competition and most of CSS


Not all Lans will offer cash as a prize, you will notice most BYOPC lans in Australia offer prizes that are donated from sponsors.

We also get quite a bit of feedback about our prize offerings and most responses i have received prefer physical prizes to cash.

This is not to say we will stop offering cash prizes for the future. This event Respawn has received quite a bit of sponsor attention and as such we are offering some quite high value prizes.


have you gotten feedback from the people that actually win the major competitions, or from people who bomb out first round because they dont even play the game?

i can tell you, almost any, if not every team that will actually win one of your larger comps, will not want those prizes, and would prefer cash prizes
Zardoz
QUOTE (Redact @ May 25 2010, 11:21 PM) *
have you gotten feedback from the people that actually win the major competitions, or from people who bomb out first round because they dont even play the game?

i can tell you, almost any, if not every team that will actually win one of your larger comps, will not want those prizes, and would prefer cash prizes


Hi,

We typically base this on feedback we have received from gamers who have voiced their opinions to us, either during the event, after the event, through forums and so on. Furthermore, many LAN gaming events now and in the past have frequently awarded product - not cash - to the competition winners.

Our sponsors have gone all-out this event and have gathered the largest prize pool that either competition has ever seen. The prizes they have supplied are of high quality.

Unfortunately, we aren't able to suppliment these prizes with cash at this time as we've run into issues in the past where players who have registered and confirmed simply did not show. This has proven to be unprofitable in the medium term which makes Respawn LAN unviable. To be perfectly honest, we (and everyone else we spoke to) have suggested that these prizes not only kick some serious ass this time around but that winning prizes was the preferred award.

We run the event at no financial gain to any person on the team including myself. We don't see a cent of this money and we pour endless hours of effort into this event to make it what it is today.

We regret that you don't find our prize offerings acceptable for this event however I do hope that whoever wins the respective competitions is appreciative of both their awards and their own personal success.

-z.
Sharks
Not to sound ungreatful in any way but contest winners could just sling your prizes off to friends/ebay for money and probably make more than $100 for them both...

Just a thought, be happy respawn is listening to users feedback, even though it may not be your preference.
Madllama
I am looking forward to the prepay system. It will be great to streamline the arrival process.

Only issues I worried about is that its going to make a crap load of work for you guys policing the prebooked seats (dealing with arguments etc etc) and that your servers might fall over in the rush to grab the "Best Seats".
priorax
QUOTE (Zardoz @ May 24 2010, 09:32 PM) *
We'll be annoucing prizes soon for the following:
Armagetron


Is this implying that Armagetron is running as an actual comp rather then a fun comp?
TechL
Can't wait to pre pay with Paypal, such a good idea.
GerrySly
Does paypal only open up when we are confirming or this Thursday we can prepay?

Looking forward to it smile.gif
R4N
QUOTE (priorax @ May 26 2010, 10:26 AM) *
QUOTE (Zardoz @ May 24 2010, 09:32 PM) *
We'll be annoucing prizes soon for the following:
Armagetron


Is this implying that Armagetron is running as an actual comp rather then a fun comp?


Considering we get well over 100 people playing it at once..........

watch this space smile.gif
fletchdawg
I already receive gear from razer, why would i want to pay $30 to win some second rate crap :S


cash plz ;D
SirSquidness
QUOTE (fletchdawg @ May 26 2010, 12:48 PM) *
I already receive gear from razer, why would i want to pay $30 to win some second rate crap :S


cash plz ;D


QUOTE (Zardoz @ May 26 2010, 12:03 AM) *
We regret that you don't find our prize offerings acceptable for this event however I do hope that whoever wins the respective competitions is appreciative of both their awards and their own personal success.

-z.


List of reasons to come to Respawn:
  • Hard drive throwing competition
  • Baconated Pancakes
  • Awesome competitions
  • Regular fun comps (Now with added regularity!)
  • 400 other people to socialise with, and pwn with 0 latency
  • etc


Respawn is not run for the Australian / Victorian pro-gamer community. We love that you guys love coming to Respawn, however we don't have the capacity to continually offer huge cash prizes. We attempt to cater to the entire community, and as such, look at the event as a whole, as opposed to running it purely for a single part of the community.

We are, however, looking in to running a series of events in the future that will cater to pro gamers, with a pretty decent cash prize pool.

Watch this space, and please do not expect Respawn to cater to every individual need.
Zardoz
QUOTE (fletchdawg @ May 26 2010, 12:48 PM) *
I already receive gear from razer, why would i want to pay $30 to win some second rate crap :S

cash plz ;D


The ThermalTake products they have just launched are not "second rate crap". There are ATMs located near the venue which can provide cash.

(See my previous post on our position with cash prizes).

QUOTE (priorax @ May 26 2010, 10:26 AM) *
Is this implying that Armagetron is running as an actual comp rather then a fun comp?


All competitions are fun. Aren't they?
fletchdawg
Ill donate the prizes back to you so that next time there's double prize money from last time, agree'd? biggrin.gif
denied
Shouldn't cod get more prizes than css?
More cod teams participate than css teams if you haven't realized in the last 4 events.
fletchdawg
QUOTE (denied @ May 26 2010, 04:39 PM) *
Shouldn't cod get more prizes than css?
More cod teams participate than css teams if you haven't realized in the last 4 events.

^^
dead_man
QUOTE (denied @ May 26 2010, 04:39 PM) *
Shouldn't cod get more prizes than css?
More cod teams participate than css teams if you haven't realized in the last 4 events.


Since these are sponsor provided products, they get to choose which competition they go to.

-Dead_Man
LolSauce
QUOTE (fletchdawg @ May 26 2010, 04:34 PM) *
Ill donate the prizes back to you so that next time there's double prize money from last time, agree'd? biggrin.gif


HTFU and stop whinging, if you don't like it... dont come huh.gif
fletchdawg
MAD
LolSauce
COOL STORY
Zardoz
QUOTE (fletchdawg @ May 26 2010, 04:34 PM) *
Ill donate the prizes back to you so that next time there's double prize money from last time, agree'd? biggrin.gif


What's twice $0?

(If you win, we'd be happy to hold the prizes if you so wish and let them jackpot to the winners of the competition at v18.. but we'd really like them to go out to a player).
fletchdawg
but ill just keep winning CoD4? r0f
Madllama
Well I reckon that you should ditch all of the prizes and buy more food. tongue.gif
Solves all of the whining and makes my stomach happy.
Tank
QUOTE (Madllama @ May 27 2010, 08:16 AM) *
Well I reckon that you should ditch all of the prizes and buy more food. tongue.gif
Solves all of the whining and makes my stomach happy.


all of the fun comp / afk comp prizes involve food ^w^ nomnomnom
Queen Gainer
QUOTE (fletchdawg @ May 26 2010, 09:50 PM) *
but ill just keep winning CoD4? r0f


Wow, I'd hate to be the downer on your high and mighty parade, but if you don't like the prize, then don't play. If you want cash prizes, turn super pro and move to America. God, pro-gamers bitch like a pack of starved supermodels after they've put on two hundred grams of weight onto their nose -- Chuck a tantrum when things don't go their way.

Get over it, yeah? Respawn are not there to give you bi-monthly allowance.
mrt
I personally like the prizes for the upcoming event, i don't mind the no cash prize issue being brought up in this thread, i go to respawn cos its fun and so on not just for a 100 dollar cash prize lol people need to chill, respawn are doing awesome for the community
DArenberg
QUOTE (fletchdawg @ May 26 2010, 09:50 PM) *
but ill just keep winning CoD4? r0f


Chillout Brenton, you already claim the Respawn "COD E-sports" competition wins as a top 3 place at a live event to maintain your quota for Razor branding, at which tier do you get the logo tattooed on your forehead?

In fact due to respawn as a non for profit organisation and gaming community event offering you the opportunity to commercial slut yourselfs you should pay more for entry and put up a prize. IMO. blink.gif
fletchdawg
ROFL m@d
Queen Gainer
QUOTE (DArenberg @ May 28 2010, 12:45 PM) *
QUOTE (fletchdawg @ May 26 2010, 09:50 PM) *
but ill just keep winning CoD4? r0f


Chillout Brenton, you already claim the Respawn "COD E-sports" competition wins as a top 3 place at a live event to maintain your quota for Razor branding, at which tier do you get the logo tattooed on your forehead?

In fact due to respawn as a non for profit organisation and gaming community event offering you the opportunity to commercial slut yourselfs you should pay more for entry and put up a prize. IMO. blink.gif


I like this man.
Alioth
The only reason he keeps winning is because I never enter. Bitches don't know 'bout my M4D SK1LLZ.
I'm beyond all that petty clan gaming stuff ('clan' is gaelic for 'children') and have moved onto a higher plane of awesome.
TechL
I don't even enter competitions for anything other than fun...
Queen Gainer
QUOTE (Alioth @ May 28 2010, 08:56 PM) *
The only reason he keeps winning is because I never enter. Bitches don't know 'bout my M4D SK1LLZ.
I'm beyond all that petty clan gaming stuff ('clan' is gaelic for 'children') and have moved onto a higher plane of awesome.


ilu <3
GIARUS
Ive read this whole post but i have one question why was the registry changed from 500 back to 400
im suprized no one had asked

also how come the respawn fee has increased 2 35 dollars now
Syk0
QUOTE
The entry fee is now $35, what gives?
Unfortunately, the Global Fried Chicken (GFC) demands that we take this course of action, coupled with 100 no shows at v16, coupled again with us dropping the player count down to 400 (we hope you'll be less squished up this time) we have had no choice but to do this. It sadens us deeply, and we hope that we can still be friends.

from the prepay faq
dead_man
and as far as dropping seating back to 400? Simple matter of OH&S, and was becoming far to cramped and was becoming a safety issue.
rushroom
What happens if you are the 400th person register and then some one whos out side of the 400 pays? does that auto kick the 400th person to 401?
SirSquidness
QUOTE (rushroom @ May 28 2010, 11:57 PM) *
What happens if you are the 400th person register and then some one whos out side of the 400 pays? does that auto kick the 400th person to 401?


Prepay beats confirmed beats registered beats nothing.

If you prepay, you get bumped to the top of the list, followed by people who have confirmed, followed by non-confirms.

Order of registration is maintained within the categories.
rushroom
zz, so if i have no access to paypal i could very well lose my spot.
Redact
QUOTE (rushroom @ May 29 2010, 12:52 AM) *
zz, so if i have no access to paypal i could very well lose my spot.

paypal is far from hard at all to access

have any sort of bank account, and its accessible

unless you dont have a bank account

maybe work on that one
rushroom
i am 12 and what is this
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